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    <description>Host Clara Sherley-Appel interviews authors about their creative process, from the inspiration behind the books they write to specific choices they make.
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  <title>Episode 61: Charlie Jane Anders - LESSONS IN MAGIC AND DISASTER</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 08:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to award-winning Bay Area author Charlie Jane Anders about her new book, LESSONS IN MAGIC AND DISASTER.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:01</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Charlie Jane Anders is an award-winning, best-selling author of speculative fiction based in the Bay Area. She is the winner of the 2017 Nebula, Locus, and Crawford awards; winner of the 2020 Locus Award; a co-creator of the transgender Marvel Comics superhero, Escapade; a founding editor of the science fiction website io9 (https://gizmodo.com/io9); a co-host, with Annalee Newitz, of the podcast Our Opinions Are Correct (https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/); and the current science fiction and fantasy book reviewer for The Washington Post.
In this episode, I talk to Charlie Jane about her latest and most personal novel yet. Written during the pandemic, partly as a way of processing her own father's death and her mother's subsequent isolation, Lessons in Magic and Disaster is about a 20-something graduate student in English Literature who teaches her grieving mother how to do magic...with unexpected consequences. In our conversation, we talk about the hidden history of the 18th century novel, LGBTQ activism in the 70s and 80s, the role of community in writing, and so much more.
To learn more about Charlie Jane, or to order a copy of Lessons in Magic and Disaster, visit charliejaneanders.com (https://www.charliejaneanders.com/). Special Guest: Charlie Jane Anders.
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Charlie Jane Anders</strong> is an award-winning, best-selling author of speculative fiction based in the Bay Area. She is the winner of the 2017 Nebula, Locus, and Crawford awards; winner of the 2020 Locus Award; a co-creator of the transgender Marvel Comics superhero, Escapade; a founding editor of the science fiction website <em><a href="https://gizmodo.com/io9" rel="nofollow">io9</a></em>; a co-host, with Annalee Newitz, of the podcast <em><a href="https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/" rel="nofollow">Our Opinions Are Correct</a></em>; and the current science fiction and fantasy book reviewer for <em>The Washington Post</em>.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Charlie Jane about her latest and most personal novel yet. Written during the pandemic, partly as a way of processing her own father&#39;s death and her mother&#39;s subsequent isolation, <em>Lessons in Magic and Disaster</em> is about a 20-something graduate student in English Literature who teaches her grieving mother how to do magic...with unexpected consequences. In our conversation, we talk about the hidden history of the 18th century novel, LGBTQ activism in the 70s and 80s, the role of community in writing, and so much more.</p>

<p>To learn more about Charlie Jane, or to order a copy of <em>Lessons in Magic and Disaster</em>, visit <a href="https://www.charliejaneanders.com/" rel="nofollow">charliejaneanders.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Charlie Jane Anders.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Charlie Jane Anders</strong> is an award-winning, best-selling author of speculative fiction based in the Bay Area. She is the winner of the 2017 Nebula, Locus, and Crawford awards; winner of the 2020 Locus Award; a co-creator of the transgender Marvel Comics superhero, Escapade; a founding editor of the science fiction website <em><a href="https://gizmodo.com/io9" rel="nofollow">io9</a></em>; a co-host, with Annalee Newitz, of the podcast <em><a href="https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/" rel="nofollow">Our Opinions Are Correct</a></em>; and the current science fiction and fantasy book reviewer for <em>The Washington Post</em>.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Charlie Jane about her latest and most personal novel yet. Written during the pandemic, partly as a way of processing her own father&#39;s death and her mother&#39;s subsequent isolation, <em>Lessons in Magic and Disaster</em> is about a 20-something graduate student in English Literature who teaches her grieving mother how to do magic...with unexpected consequences. In our conversation, we talk about the hidden history of the 18th century novel, LGBTQ activism in the 70s and 80s, the role of community in writing, and so much more.</p>

<p>To learn more about Charlie Jane, or to order a copy of <em>Lessons in Magic and Disaster</em>, visit <a href="https://www.charliejaneanders.com/" rel="nofollow">charliejaneanders.com</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Charlie Jane Anders.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 59: Alka Joshi - SIX DAYS IN BOMBAY</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to local bestseller Alka Joshi about latest novel, SIX DAYS IN BOMBAY.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:02</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Alka Joshi spent 10 years working on her debut novel, The Henna Artist, before it was published in March 2020, just before the world locked down as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Then, a few months later, Reese Witherspoon selected it as a Reese's book club, changing the trajectory of Joshi's life and writing career forever. At a time when many debut artists were struggling to connect with their audiences, Joshi was zooming into libraries, bookstores, and book clubs big and small, and finding her people in the process.
Five years later, Joshi has published two sequels to The Henna Artist and a new standalone novel, Six Days in Bombay, a coming-of-age novel about an Anglo-Indian nurse who travels Europe to carry out the final wishes of one of her patients. In our conversation, we talk about her whirlwind success, her fascination with the years leading up to India's independence from Britain, the artist who inspired her latest story, and her next project. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Alka Joshi spent 10 years working on her debut novel, <em>The Henna Artist</em>, before it was published in March 2020, just before the world locked down as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Then, a few months later, Reese Witherspoon selected it as a Reese&#39;s book club, changing the trajectory of Joshi&#39;s life and writing career forever. At a time when many debut artists were struggling to connect with their audiences, Joshi was zooming into libraries, bookstores, and book clubs big and small, and finding her people in the process.</p>

<p>Five years later, Joshi has published two sequels to <em>The Henna Artist</em> and a new standalone novel, <em>Six Days in Bombay</em>, a coming-of-age novel about an Anglo-Indian nurse who travels Europe to carry out the final wishes of one of her patients. In our conversation, we talk about her whirlwind success, her fascination with the years leading up to India&#39;s independence from Britain, the artist who inspired her latest story, and her next project.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Alka Joshi spent 10 years working on her debut novel, <em>The Henna Artist</em>, before it was published in March 2020, just before the world locked down as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Then, a few months later, Reese Witherspoon selected it as a Reese&#39;s book club, changing the trajectory of Joshi&#39;s life and writing career forever. At a time when many debut artists were struggling to connect with their audiences, Joshi was zooming into libraries, bookstores, and book clubs big and small, and finding her people in the process.</p>

<p>Five years later, Joshi has published two sequels to <em>The Henna Artist</em> and a new standalone novel, <em>Six Days in Bombay</em>, a coming-of-age novel about an Anglo-Indian nurse who travels Europe to carry out the final wishes of one of her patients. In our conversation, we talk about her whirlwind success, her fascination with the years leading up to India&#39;s independence from Britain, the artist who inspired her latest story, and her next project.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 58: Kirsty Capes - DAUGHTERS</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to author and British novelist Kirsty Capes about her latest book, DAUGHTERS, which was recently released in the US following its debut in the UK in 2024 (under the title GIRLS).</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:27</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In this episode of Story Behind the Story, host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to British novelist Kirsty Capes about her latest book, Daughters, which was recently released in the US following its debut in the UK in 2024 (under the title Girls). Daughters follows Mattie and Nora, whose neglectful and abusive mother was the acclaimed artist Ingrid Olssen. On her deathbed, Olssen asks them to destroy her work, so when Olssen’s sister arranges an exhibition of her art in San Francisco, her daughters feel compelled to put a stop to it — despite their difficult and complicated feelings about their mother.
Our conversation spans Capes' early success as a novelist, her experience in the foster care system, how she brings levity to difficult topics, and more. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Story Behind the Story</em>, host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to British novelist Kirsty Capes about her latest book, <em>Daughters</em>, which was recently released in the US following its debut in the UK in 2024 (under the title <em>Girls</em>). <em>Daughters</em> follows Mattie and Nora, whose neglectful and abusive mother was the acclaimed artist Ingrid Olssen. On her deathbed, Olssen asks them to destroy her work, so when Olssen’s sister arranges an exhibition of her art in San Francisco, her daughters feel compelled to put a stop to it — despite their difficult and complicated feelings about their mother.</p>

<p>Our conversation spans Capes&#39; early success as a novelist, her experience in the foster care system, how she brings levity to difficult topics, and more.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Story Behind the Story</em>, host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to British novelist Kirsty Capes about her latest book, <em>Daughters</em>, which was recently released in the US following its debut in the UK in 2024 (under the title <em>Girls</em>). <em>Daughters</em> follows Mattie and Nora, whose neglectful and abusive mother was the acclaimed artist Ingrid Olssen. On her deathbed, Olssen asks them to destroy her work, so when Olssen’s sister arranges an exhibition of her art in San Francisco, her daughters feel compelled to put a stop to it — despite their difficult and complicated feelings about their mother.</p>

<p>Our conversation spans Capes&#39; early success as a novelist, her experience in the foster care system, how she brings levity to difficult topics, and more.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 55: Holly Goddard Jones - THE SALT LINE</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to author and educator Holly Goddard Jones about her 2017 novel, THE SALT LINE.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:22</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Holly Goddard Jones is an author and educator best known for literary fiction. She was a recipient of The Fellowship of Southern Writers’ Hillsdale Prize for Excellence in Fiction and the Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, and her work has appeared in several literary publications, including The Best American Mystery Stories, New Stories from the South, and Tin House magazine, in addition to two of her own short story collections and two novels. 
In the 2010s, while teaching at a residency in a highly wooded part of Tenessee, Jones was inspired to write a horror story about an insidious species of ticks that carry a horrifying deadly disease. That story became a novel, rooted in the climate crisis, in which Jones explored not just the horror of the ticks themselves, but how the inequities baked into our existing socioeconomic system might look in the face of a serious existential threat. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Holly Goddard Jones is an author and educator best known for literary fiction. She was a recipient of The Fellowship of Southern Writers’ Hillsdale Prize for Excellence in Fiction and the Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, and her work has appeared in several literary publications, including <em>The Best American Mystery Stories</em>, <em>New Stories from the South</em>, and <em>Tin House</em> magazine, in addition to two of her own short story collections and two novels. </p>

<p>In the 2010s, while teaching at a residency in a highly wooded part of Tenessee, Jones was inspired to write a horror story about an insidious species of ticks that carry a horrifying deadly disease. That story became a novel, rooted in the climate crisis, in which Jones explored not just the horror of the ticks themselves, but how the inequities baked into our existing socioeconomic system might look in the face of a serious existential threat.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Holly Goddard Jones is an author and educator best known for literary fiction. She was a recipient of The Fellowship of Southern Writers’ Hillsdale Prize for Excellence in Fiction and the Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, and her work has appeared in several literary publications, including <em>The Best American Mystery Stories</em>, <em>New Stories from the South</em>, and <em>Tin House</em> magazine, in addition to two of her own short story collections and two novels. </p>

<p>In the 2010s, while teaching at a residency in a highly wooded part of Tenessee, Jones was inspired to write a horror story about an insidious species of ticks that carry a horrifying deadly disease. That story became a novel, rooted in the climate crisis, in which Jones explored not just the horror of the ticks themselves, but how the inequities baked into our existing socioeconomic system might look in the face of a serious existential threat.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 54: Muriel Leung - HOW TO FALL IN LOVE IN A TIME OF UNNAMEABLE DISASTER</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Muriel Leung about her debut novel, HOW TO FALL IN LOVE IN A TIME OF UNNAMEABLE DISASTER.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:32</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Muriel Leung is a recipient of fellowships to Kundiman, VONA/Voices Workshop and the Community of Writers, and she has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize. Her writing can be found in The Baffler, Cream City Review, Gulf Coast, The Collagist, and the Fairy Tale Review, among others. Her first book of poetry, Bone Confetti, won the 2015 Noemi Press Book Award. Of it, one reviewer said, “It made the words into a bell, and the bell made me stop what I was doing.” I spoke to Muriel in 2021 about her poetry collection, Imagine Us, the Swarm, in which she explored racialized labor and the death of her father.
In this episode, I talk to Muriel about her debut novel, How to Fall in Love in a Time of Unnameable Disaster, which came out this past October. It follows Mira, a 20-something queer woman living in a New York City beset by weekly acid rainstorms, as she moves in with her mother and grieves the death of her girlfriend, who refused to leave the deteriorating apartment they both shared. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Muriel Leung is a recipient of fellowships to Kundiman, VONA/Voices Workshop and the Community of Writers, and she has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize. Her writing can be found in <em>The Baffler</em>, <em>Cream City Review</em>, <em>Gulf Coast</em>, <em>The Collagist</em>, and the <em>Fairy Tale Review</em>, among others. Her first book of poetry, <em>Bone Confetti</em>, won the 2015 Noemi Press Book Award. Of it, one reviewer said, “It made the words into a bell, and the bell made me stop what I was doing.” I spoke to Muriel in 2021 about her poetry collection, <em>Imagine Us, the Swarm</em>, in which she explored racialized labor and the death of her father.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Muriel about her debut novel, <em>How to Fall in Love in a Time of Unnameable Disaster</em>, which came out this past October. It follows Mira, a 20-something queer woman living in a New York City beset by weekly acid rainstorms, as she moves in with her mother and grieves the death of her girlfriend, who refused to leave the deteriorating apartment they both shared.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Muriel Leung is a recipient of fellowships to Kundiman, VONA/Voices Workshop and the Community of Writers, and she has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize. Her writing can be found in <em>The Baffler</em>, <em>Cream City Review</em>, <em>Gulf Coast</em>, <em>The Collagist</em>, and the <em>Fairy Tale Review</em>, among others. Her first book of poetry, <em>Bone Confetti</em>, won the 2015 Noemi Press Book Award. Of it, one reviewer said, “It made the words into a bell, and the bell made me stop what I was doing.” I spoke to Muriel in 2021 about her poetry collection, <em>Imagine Us, the Swarm</em>, in which she explored racialized labor and the death of her father.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Muriel about her debut novel, <em>How to Fall in Love in a Time of Unnameable Disaster</em>, which came out this past October. It follows Mira, a 20-something queer woman living in a New York City beset by weekly acid rainstorms, as she moves in with her mother and grieves the death of her girlfriend, who refused to leave the deteriorating apartment they both shared.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 53: Hilary Leichter - TERRACE STORY</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Clara talks to author and educator Hilary Leichter about her novels TERRACE STORY and TEMPORARY.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:26</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Hilary Leicther's particular brand of surrealist fiction takes metaphors and makes them tangible. Her debut novel, Temporary, followed a nameless, archetypal temp worker from one gig to the next. As the jobs grow progressively stranger, their strangeness bleeds into her personal life. In this episode, I talk to Leichter about her new novel, Terrace Story, in which a struggling family find a spacious terrace — one that seems to defy the laws of physics — behind the linen closet of their tiny, New York apartment. It is a novel about the impact each of us has on the world around us, and the hidden depths we all contain. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Hilary Leicther&#39;s particular brand of surrealist fiction takes metaphors and makes them tangible. Her debut novel, <em>Temporary</em>, followed a nameless, archetypal temp worker from one gig to the next. As the jobs grow progressively stranger, their strangeness bleeds into her personal life. In this episode, I talk to Leichter about her new novel, <em>Terrace Story</em>, in which a struggling family find a spacious terrace — one that seems to defy the laws of physics — behind the linen closet of their tiny, New York apartment. It is a novel about the impact each of us has on the world around us, and the hidden depths we all contain.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Hilary Leicther&#39;s particular brand of surrealist fiction takes metaphors and makes them tangible. Her debut novel, <em>Temporary</em>, followed a nameless, archetypal temp worker from one gig to the next. As the jobs grow progressively stranger, their strangeness bleeds into her personal life. In this episode, I talk to Leichter about her new novel, <em>Terrace Story</em>, in which a struggling family find a spacious terrace — one that seems to defy the laws of physics — behind the linen closet of their tiny, New York apartment. It is a novel about the impact each of us has on the world around us, and the hidden depths we all contain.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 52: Hanna Pylväinen - THE END OF DRUM-TIME</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 19:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Clara talks to author and educator Hanna Pylväinen about her novel THE END OF DRUM-TIME.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:21</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Hanna Pylväinen has been writing fiction about the small Finnish fundamentalist sect she was raised in for years. In her 2012 debut novel, We Sinners, she follows a large, Midwestern family as they navigate their relationships to each other and to the church at the heart of their lives. Over the years since she wrote that novel, Pylväinen has learned more about the origins of that religious order, called Laestadianism after the pastor who founded it, and its relationship to the colonization of Finland and displacement of the Sami people and their traditions. Her new novel, The End of Drum-Time, takes a new look at Laestadianism, exploring the dynamics of imperialism, the instrumentalization of religion in settler-colonialism, and the limitations on our ability to see past our own perspective. 
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  <title>Episode 51: Lev Grossman - THE BRIGHT SWORD</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 15:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Clara talks to New York Times-bestselling author Lev Grossman about his Arthurian epic, THE BRIGHT SWORD.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:02</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In 2014, hot on the heels of the success of his Magicians trilogy, Lev Grossman announced that he was writing a Arthurian epic. As the project took shape, world events kept intruding: Donald Trump ascended to the presidency, a novel respiratory virus launched a pandemic, and Britain exited the European Union. Admist all this, Grossman realized that the question that had driven him to write this novel in the first place — What happens after Arthur dies? — was a question about the collapse of empires. And so The Bright Sword was reborn.
In this interview, I talk to Lev about the politics of Camelot, the difficulty of seeing the themes that are present in your own work, and the difficulty of tracking changes across a 700-page tome. Special Guest: Lev Grossman.
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<p>In this interview, I talk to Lev about the politics of Camelot, the difficulty of seeing the themes that are present in your own work, and the difficulty of tracking changes across a 700-page tome.</p><p>Special Guest: Lev Grossman.</p>]]>
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<p>In this interview, I talk to Lev about the politics of Camelot, the difficulty of seeing the themes that are present in your own work, and the difficulty of tracking changes across a 700-page tome.</p><p>Special Guest: Lev Grossman.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 48: Katya Apekina - MOTHER DOLL</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2024 17:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author, screenwriter, and translator Katya Apekina about her second novel, MOTHER DOLL.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>58:27</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Novelist, screenwriter, and translator Katya Apekina returns to Story Behind the Story to talk about her latest novel, Mother Doll — an intergenerational ghost story, tying together a Russian revolutionary and her great-granddaughter, adrift in her 20s in LA. Special Guest: Katya Apekina.
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  <title>Episode 47: Marcus Gazaway - BRIDGEWATER</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 17:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to central coast author Marcus Gazaway about his debut novel, BRIDGEWATER.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>52:38</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Marcus Gazaway got his start as a writer right here on the central coast, when he joined the staff of CSU Monterey Bay’s student newspaper, The Otter Realm (https://digitalcommons.csumb.edu/otterrealm/). Today, he works as a full-time author in Sarasota, Florida, where he can be seen reading and writing in coffee shops across the Gulf Coast. His first novel, the sci-fi thriller Bridgewater, follows a neurologist whose desperation to give his Deaf daughter a voice leads him down a dark and destructive path. It is the topic of our conversation today. 
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  <title>Episode 42: Cheryl Harawitz - WHEN THE MAGPIE CALLS</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to local author Cheryl Harawitz about her middle-grade novel, WHEN THE MAGPIE CALLS.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:07</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Cheryl Harawitz is an artist and retired social worker living in Alameda. A few years ago, she published her debut middle-grade novel, When the Magpie Calls, the story of a nine year old girl named Morgwyth with special abilities and a remarkable connection to animals, for which she is bullied by her peers and targeted by supernatural forces who see her as a threat. But as Morgwyth begins to accept herself and her differences, she discovers a wellspring of internal strength that serves her well in her adventures.
This month's conversation covers a range of topics, from Cheryl's process in writing and editing her novel to the purpose of art — literary and otherwise — in her life to the influence of her professional experiences as a social worker on the kinds of stories she seeks to tell.
 Special Guest: Cheryl Harawitz.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Cheryl Harawitz is an artist and retired social worker living in Alameda. A few years ago, she published her debut middle-grade novel, <em>When the Magpie Calls</em>, the story of a nine year old girl named Morgwyth with special abilities and a remarkable connection to animals, for which she is bullied by her peers and targeted by supernatural forces who see her as a threat. But as Morgwyth begins to accept herself and her differences, she discovers a wellspring of internal strength that serves her well in her adventures.</p>

<p>This month&#39;s conversation covers a range of topics, from Cheryl&#39;s process in writing and editing her novel to the purpose of art — literary and otherwise — in her life to the influence of her professional experiences as a social worker on the kinds of stories she seeks to tell.</p><p>Special Guest: Cheryl Harawitz.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Cheryl Harawitz is an artist and retired social worker living in Alameda. A few years ago, she published her debut middle-grade novel, <em>When the Magpie Calls</em>, the story of a nine year old girl named Morgwyth with special abilities and a remarkable connection to animals, for which she is bullied by her peers and targeted by supernatural forces who see her as a threat. But as Morgwyth begins to accept herself and her differences, she discovers a wellspring of internal strength that serves her well in her adventures.</p>

<p>This month&#39;s conversation covers a range of topics, from Cheryl&#39;s process in writing and editing her novel to the purpose of art — literary and otherwise — in her life to the influence of her professional experiences as a social worker on the kinds of stories she seeks to tell.</p><p>Special Guest: Cheryl Harawitz.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 41: Joss Lake - FUTURE FEELING</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2023 17:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to Joss Lake about his debut novel, FUTURE FEELING.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>42:13</itunes:duration>
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  <description>This month, Clara talks to author Joss Lake. A trans writer and educator based in New York, Joss teaches critical and creative writing throughout the city and runs a literary sauna series called Trans at Rest. His work has been supported by the Queens Council of the Arts, the Women and Performance Studies Collective, the Watermill Center, and Columbia University. Joss's debut novel, Future Feeling, tells a story about an embittered dog-walker who accidentally puts a curse on a young trans man and has to embark on an adventure with his social media frenemy in order to save him, and it's the subject of this conversation. Special Guest: Joss Lake.
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    <![CDATA[<p>This month, Clara talks to author Joss Lake. A trans writer and educator based in New York, Joss teaches critical and creative writing throughout the city and runs a literary sauna series called <em>Trans at Rest</em>. His work has been supported by the Queens Council of the Arts, the Women and Performance Studies Collective, the Watermill Center, and Columbia University. Joss&#39;s debut novel, <em>Future Feeling</em>, tells a story about an embittered dog-walker who accidentally puts a curse on a young trans man and has to embark on an adventure with his social media frenemy in order to save him, and it&#39;s the subject of this conversation.</p><p>Special Guest: Joss Lake.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 40: Elaine Hsieh Chou - DISORIENTATION</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 09:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author Elaine Hsieh Chou about her debut novel, DISORIENTATION.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:17</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In Elaine Hsieh Chou's 2022 debut novel, Disorientation, a Taiwanese-American graduate student named Ingrid Yang discovers that the subject of her dissertation is a fraud: Xiao-Wen Chou is not a Chinese-American poet, but is in fact a white man who built his career on stereotypes and yellowface. This discovery launches her own awakening to the racism she has faced her entire life and the many ways she's built her identity around what white people expect of her.
In our conversation, we talk about the real-life inspirations for Disorientation and the strangeness of the label "absurd" to describe a novel about these very real experiences. We also talk about the value of anger in writing and healing. 
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<p>In our conversation, we talk about the real-life inspirations for <em>Disorientation</em> and the strangeness of the label &quot;absurd&quot; to describe a novel about these very real experiences. We also talk about the value of anger in writing and healing.</p>]]>
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<p>In our conversation, we talk about the real-life inspirations for <em>Disorientation</em> and the strangeness of the label &quot;absurd&quot; to describe a novel about these very real experiences. We also talk about the value of anger in writing and healing.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 39: Ruthanna Emrys - A HALF-BUILT GARDEN</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 09:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author Ruthanna Emrys about her hopepunk novel, A HALF-BUILT GARDEN.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:18</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author Ruthanna Emrys about her hopepunk novel, A HALF-BUILT GARDEN. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author Ruthanna Emrys about her hopepunk novel, A HALF-BUILT GARDEN.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 38: Isaac Fellman - DEAD COLLECTIONS</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2022 09:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Host Clara Sherley-Appel talks to author and archivist Isaac Fellman about his novel, DEAD COLLECTIONS.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:03</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Isaac Fellman is an author and archivist living in San Francisco. His debut novel, The Breath of the Sun, won the 2019 Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror. In this episode, we discuss about his second novel, Dead Collections, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2022. It follows Sol, who works – like Isaac – as an archivist at a queer historical society in San Francisco, and who – presumably unlike Isaac – is a vampire. It’s a delightful story about love, grief, and the ways we hide our truest selves from the world to fit in.
 Special Guest: Isaac Fellman.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Isaac Fellman is an author and archivist living in San Francisco. His debut novel, <em>The Breath of the Sun</em>, won the 2019 Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror. In this episode, we discuss about his second novel, <em>Dead Collections</em>, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2022. It follows Sol, who works – like Isaac – as an archivist at a queer historical society in San Francisco, and who – presumably unlike Isaac – is a vampire. It’s a delightful story about love, grief, and the ways we hide our truest selves from the world to fit in.</p><p>Special Guest: Isaac Fellman.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Isaac Fellman is an author and archivist living in San Francisco. His debut novel, <em>The Breath of the Sun</em>, won the 2019 Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror. In this episode, we discuss about his second novel, <em>Dead Collections</em>, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2022. It follows Sol, who works – like Isaac – as an archivist at a queer historical society in San Francisco, and who – presumably unlike Isaac – is a vampire. It’s a delightful story about love, grief, and the ways we hide our truest selves from the world to fit in.</p><p>Special Guest: Isaac Fellman.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 35: Calvin Kasulke - SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2022 17:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to author and playwright Calvin Kasulke about his debut novel, SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>I talk to author and playwright Calvin Kasulke about his debut novel, Several People Are Typing. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to author and playwright Calvin Kasulke about his debut novel, <em>Several People Are Typing</em>.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to author and playwright Calvin Kasulke about his debut novel, <em>Several People Are Typing</em>.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 31: Rémy Ngamije - THE ETERNAL AUDIENCE OF ONE</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/31</link>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2021 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Namibian author Rémy Ngamije about his debut novel, THE ETERNAL AUDIENCE OF ONE.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:00</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>I talk to Namibian author Rémy Ngamije about his debut novel, THE ETERNAL AUDIENCE OF ONE. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to Namibian author Rémy Ngamije about his debut novel, THE ETERNAL AUDIENCE OF ONE.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to Namibian author Rémy Ngamije about his debut novel, THE ETERNAL AUDIENCE OF ONE.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 29: Stephen Granade - LOSING YOUR GRIP</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/29</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/04e89fe4-4416-4c4d-a53a-c1db909b745d.mp3" length="68940859" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to writer / game designer Stephen Granade about the differences between interactive and traditional fiction.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:05</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>I talk to writer / game designer Stephen Granade about the differences between interactive and traditional fiction. 
</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to writer / game designer Stephen Granade about the differences between interactive and traditional fiction.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to writer / game designer Stephen Granade about the differences between interactive and traditional fiction.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 28: Ethel Rohan - IN THE EVENT OF CONTACT</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/28</link>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/26e818a3-2fa8-425f-a259-1b9c32472c26.mp3" length="68900585" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Bay Area local Ethel Rohan, author of IN THE EVENT OF CONTACT.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:03</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/4/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/episodes/2/26e818a3-2fa8-425f-a259-1b9c32472c26/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>I talk to Bay Area local Ethel Rohan, author of IN THE EVENT OF CONTACT. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to Bay Area local Ethel Rohan, author of IN THE EVENT OF CONTACT.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>I talk to Bay Area local Ethel Rohan, author of IN THE EVENT OF CONTACT.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 26: Jeff VanderMeer - HUMMINGBIRD SALAMANDER</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/26</link>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/bb115458-8399-4392-af94-e1fe6150edb2.mp3" length="64124809" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Jeff VanderMeer about his new novel, HUMMINGBIRD SALAMANDER.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>52:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Over his 35 year career, Jeff VanderMeer has published more than a dozen novels, and his non-fiction writing has appeared in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Atlantic, Slate, Salon, and the Washington Post. His genre-defying novels and short stories frequently engage with ecological themes, including climate change, causing the New Yorker to dub him “weird Thoreau.” In 2014, Annihilation, the first book in his New York Times-bestselling Southern Reach trilogy, won the Nebula and Shirley Jackson Awards for Best Novel; it was adapted into a movie in 2018.
In this episode, I talk to Jeff about his newest novel, Hummingbird Salamander, which comes out on early next week. It follows a security analyst named Jane as she tries to unravel the mystery of a taxidermied extinct hummingbird gifted to her by an ecoterrorist. 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>jeff vandermeer, authors, ecofiction, interviews, new weird</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Over his 35 year career, Jeff VanderMeer has published more than a dozen novels, and his non-fiction writing has appeared in the <em>New York Times</em>, the <em>Los Angeles Times</em>, the <em>Atlantic</em>, <em>Slate</em>, <em>Salon</em>, and the <em>Washington Post</em>. His genre-defying novels and short stories frequently engage with ecological themes, including climate change, causing the <em>New Yorker</em> to dub him “weird Thoreau.” In 2014, <em>Annihilation</em>, the first book in his New York Times-bestselling Southern Reach trilogy, won the Nebula and Shirley Jackson Awards for Best Novel; it was adapted into a movie in 2018.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Jeff about his newest novel, <em>Hummingbird Salamander</em>, which comes out on early next week. It follows a security analyst named Jane as she tries to unravel the mystery of a taxidermied extinct hummingbird gifted to her by an ecoterrorist.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Over his 35 year career, Jeff VanderMeer has published more than a dozen novels, and his non-fiction writing has appeared in the <em>New York Times</em>, the <em>Los Angeles Times</em>, the <em>Atlantic</em>, <em>Slate</em>, <em>Salon</em>, and the <em>Washington Post</em>. His genre-defying novels and short stories frequently engage with ecological themes, including climate change, causing the <em>New Yorker</em> to dub him “weird Thoreau.” In 2014, <em>Annihilation</em>, the first book in his New York Times-bestselling Southern Reach trilogy, won the Nebula and Shirley Jackson Awards for Best Novel; it was adapted into a movie in 2018.</p>

<p>In this episode, I talk to Jeff about his newest novel, <em>Hummingbird Salamander</em>, which comes out on early next week. It follows a security analyst named Jane as she tries to unravel the mystery of a taxidermied extinct hummingbird gifted to her by an ecoterrorist.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 25: Finola Austin - BRONTË'S MISTRESS</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/25</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/1e0ee76d-84af-4176-9436-d839aa95a54f.mp3" length="80952570" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Finola Austin about her debut novel, BRONTË'S MISTRESS.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:13</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Finola Austin was born in England and moved to Northern Ireland when she was five; she is now based in Brooklyn, New York. Her debut novel Brontë’s Mistress, is a retelling of the infamous affair between Anne, Charlotte, and Emily’s brother Branwell and a long-maligned married woman, Lydia Robinson, from Lydia’s perspective. Using themes from the Brontë sisters’ novels and weaving in original and secondary sources on the affair, Austin gives voice to a woman torn between her desires and what was expected of her.
I talk to Austin about the enduring appeal of the Brontës, creating characters out of real people, and the 19th century women who never got to tell their stories. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Finola Austin was born in England and moved to Northern Ireland when she was five; she is now based in Brooklyn, New York. Her debut novel Brontë’s Mistress, is a retelling of the infamous affair between Anne, Charlotte, and Emily’s brother Branwell and a long-maligned married woman, Lydia Robinson, from Lydia’s perspective. Using themes from the Brontë sisters’ novels and weaving in original and secondary sources on the affair, Austin gives voice to a woman torn between her desires and what was expected of her.</p>

<p>I talk to Austin about the enduring appeal of the Brontës, creating characters out of real people, and the 19th century women who never got to tell their stories.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Finola Austin was born in England and moved to Northern Ireland when she was five; she is now based in Brooklyn, New York. Her debut novel Brontë’s Mistress, is a retelling of the infamous affair between Anne, Charlotte, and Emily’s brother Branwell and a long-maligned married woman, Lydia Robinson, from Lydia’s perspective. Using themes from the Brontë sisters’ novels and weaving in original and secondary sources on the affair, Austin gives voice to a woman torn between her desires and what was expected of her.</p>

<p>I talk to Austin about the enduring appeal of the Brontës, creating characters out of real people, and the 19th century women who never got to tell their stories.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 24: Kamala Puligandla - YOU CAN VIBE ME ON MY FEMMEPHONE</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/24</link>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Kamala Puligandla about her new novella, YOU CAN VIBE ME ON MY FEMMEPHONE.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:23</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, I talk to author Kamala Puligandla about her new novella, You Can Vibe Me on My FemmePhone, queer coming of age stories, and the function of humor in her writing. Puligandla lives in Los Angeles, where she also eats, snobs, wears elastic-waisted pants, skulks around the farmer's market, attempts to go to the Y, swipes on Tinder, and thrifts for flair that makes style pop. She is from Oakland, CA and has previously lived there, Portland, OR, and Chicago, IL. She is currently the Communications &amp;amp; Marketing Director at the Women’s Center for Creative Work.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I talk to author Kamala Puligandla about her new novella, <em>You Can Vibe Me on My FemmePhone</em>, queer coming of age stories, and the function of humor in her writing. Puligandla lives in Los Angeles, where she also eats, snobs, wears elastic-waisted pants, skulks around the farmer&#39;s market, attempts to go to the Y, swipes on Tinder, and thrifts for flair that makes style pop. She is from Oakland, CA and has previously lived there, Portland, OR, and Chicago, IL. She is currently the Communications &amp; Marketing Director at the Women’s Center for Creative Work.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I talk to author Kamala Puligandla about her new novella, <em>You Can Vibe Me on My FemmePhone</em>, queer coming of age stories, and the function of humor in her writing. Puligandla lives in Los Angeles, where she also eats, snobs, wears elastic-waisted pants, skulks around the farmer&#39;s market, attempts to go to the Y, swipes on Tinder, and thrifts for flair that makes style pop. She is from Oakland, CA and has previously lived there, Portland, OR, and Chicago, IL. She is currently the Communications &amp; Marketing Director at the Women’s Center for Creative Work.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 21: Elisa Gabbert - THE UNREALITY OF MEMORY</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/21</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2020 12:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/499bf883-a80e-4bc2-8e36-b66e2a455ef6/02527558-314a-4d56-9542-98b470d0e814.mp3" length="77501432" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Elisa Gabbert about her prescient essay collection, THE UNREALITY OF MEMORY.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>53:49</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Elisa Gabbert is obsessed with disasters and how we perceive them. In The Unreality of Memory, which was released last year in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, Gabbert tackles pandemics, environmental disasters, the nature of pain and its perception, nostalgia and more.
We talk about Gabbert's interest in these topics, the relationship between her poetry and her essays, and getting burned out on empathy. 
--
Elisa Gabbert is the author of five collections of poetry, essays, and criticism: The Unreality of Memory &amp;amp; Other Essays, out now from FSG Originals and Atlantic UK; The Word Pretty (Black Ocean, 2018); L’Heure Bleue, or the Judy Poems (Black Ocean, 2016); The Self Unstable (Black Ocean, 2013); and The French Exit (Birds LLC, 2010). The Unreality of Memory and The Word Pretty were both named a New York Times Editors’ Choice, and The Self Unstable was chosen by New Yorker magazine as one of the best books of 2013. Gabbert writes a regular poetry column for the New York Times, and her work has appeared in Harper’s, The New Yorker, the New York Times Magazine and Book Review, the New York Review of Books, the Guardian Long Read, the London Review of Books, A Public Space, the Paris Review Daily, American Poetry Review, and many other venues. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Elisa Gabbert is obsessed with disasters and how we perceive them. In <em>The Unreality of Memory</em>, which was released last year in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, Gabbert tackles pandemics, environmental disasters, the nature of pain and its perception, nostalgia and more.</p>

<p>We talk about Gabbert&#39;s interest in these topics, the relationship between her poetry and her essays, and getting burned out on empathy. </p>

<p>--<br>
Elisa Gabbert is the author of five collections of poetry, essays, and criticism: <em>The Unreality of Memory &amp; Other Essays</em>, out now from FSG Originals and Atlantic UK; <em>The Word Pretty</em> (Black Ocean, 2018); <em>L’Heure Bleue, or the Judy Poems</em> (Black Ocean, 2016); <em>The Self Unstable</em> (Black Ocean, 2013); and <em>The French Exit</em> (Birds LLC, 2010). <em>The Unreality of Memory</em> and <em>The Word Pretty</em> were both named a <em>New York Times</em> Editors’ Choice, and <em>The Self Unstable</em> was chosen by <em>New Yorker</em> magazine as one of the best books of 2013. Gabbert writes a regular poetry column for the <em>New York Times</em>, and her work has appeared in <em>Harper’s</em>, <em>The New Yorker</em>, the <em>New York Times Magazine and Book Review</em>, the <em>New York Review of Books</em>, the <em>Guardian Long Read</em>, the <em>London Review of Books</em>, <em>A Public Space</em>, the <em>Paris Review Daily</em>, <em>American Poetry Review</em>, and many other venues.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Elisa Gabbert is obsessed with disasters and how we perceive them. In <em>The Unreality of Memory</em>, which was released last year in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, Gabbert tackles pandemics, environmental disasters, the nature of pain and its perception, nostalgia and more.</p>

<p>We talk about Gabbert&#39;s interest in these topics, the relationship between her poetry and her essays, and getting burned out on empathy. </p>

<p>--<br>
Elisa Gabbert is the author of five collections of poetry, essays, and criticism: <em>The Unreality of Memory &amp; Other Essays</em>, out now from FSG Originals and Atlantic UK; <em>The Word Pretty</em> (Black Ocean, 2018); <em>L’Heure Bleue, or the Judy Poems</em> (Black Ocean, 2016); <em>The Self Unstable</em> (Black Ocean, 2013); and <em>The French Exit</em> (Birds LLC, 2010). <em>The Unreality of Memory</em> and <em>The Word Pretty</em> were both named a <em>New York Times</em> Editors’ Choice, and <em>The Self Unstable</em> was chosen by <em>New Yorker</em> magazine as one of the best books of 2013. Gabbert writes a regular poetry column for the <em>New York Times</em>, and her work has appeared in <em>Harper’s</em>, <em>The New Yorker</em>, the <em>New York Times Magazine and Book Review</em>, the <em>New York Review of Books</em>, the <em>Guardian Long Read</em>, the <em>London Review of Books</em>, <em>A Public Space</em>, the <em>Paris Review Daily</em>, <em>American Poetry Review</em>, and many other venues.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 20: Lev Grossman - THE SILVER ARROW</title>
  <link>https://story.fireside.fm/20</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2020 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Lev Grossman about his middle-grade fantasy novel, THE SILVER ARROW.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:59</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In this month's episode, I talk to New York Times-bestselling author Lev Grossman about his new middle-grade fantasy novel, The Silver Arrow, which follows 11-year-old Kate and her younger brother Tom on a magical ecological adventure. It's a classic children's adventure novel in the style of The Phantom Tollbooth or The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankwiler with an important modern message.
In this live online event, produced for Kepler's Literary Foundation, we discuss the difference between writing for adults and writing for children, the joy of creating voices and personalities for each of the talking animals, Lev's favorite kids' books, and the feedback his kids gave him on the book.
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Lev Grossman is a writer and journalist best known for the New York Times-bestselling Magicians trilogy, a series of urban fantasy novels that were adapted into a television show by the same name. In addition to those novels and The Silver Arrow, he has written two other books, Warp and Codex. His essays and criticism have also been published in Vanity Fair, the Believer, the Village Voice, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Salon, Slate, Wired, Entertainment Weekly, the Week, Buzzfeed, NPR, and Lingua Franca. He served as the lead technology writer and book critic for Time magazine for nearly 15 years, from 2002 to 2016. Special Guest: Lev Grossman.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this month&#39;s episode, I talk to <em>New York Times</em>-bestselling author Lev Grossman about his new middle-grade fantasy novel, <em>The Silver Arrow</em>, which follows 11-year-old Kate and her younger brother Tom on a magical ecological adventure. It&#39;s a classic children&#39;s adventure novel in the style of <em>The Phantom Tollbooth</em> or <em>The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankwiler</em> with an important modern message.</p>

<p>In this live online event, produced for Kepler&#39;s Literary Foundation, we discuss the difference between writing for adults and writing for children, the joy of creating voices and personalities for each of the talking animals, Lev&#39;s favorite kids&#39; books, and the feedback his kids gave him on the book.</p>

<p>--<br>
Lev Grossman is a writer and journalist best known for the <em>New York Times</em>-bestselling <em>Magicians</em> trilogy, a series of urban fantasy novels that were adapted into a television show by the same name. In addition to those novels and <em>The Silver Arrow</em>, he has written two other books, <em>Warp</em> and <em>Codex</em>. His essays and criticism have also been published in <em>Vanity Fair</em>, the <em>Believer</em>, the <em>Village Voice</em>, the <em>Wall Street Journal</em>, the <em>New York Times</em>, <em>Salon</em>, <em>Slate</em>, <em>Wired</em>, <em>Entertainment Weekly</em>, the <em>Week</em>, <em>Buzzfeed</em>, <em>NPR</em>, and <em>Lingua Franca</em>. He served as the lead technology writer and book critic for <em>Time</em> magazine for nearly 15 years, from 2002 to 2016.</p><p>Special Guest: Lev Grossman.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this month&#39;s episode, I talk to <em>New York Times</em>-bestselling author Lev Grossman about his new middle-grade fantasy novel, <em>The Silver Arrow</em>, which follows 11-year-old Kate and her younger brother Tom on a magical ecological adventure. It&#39;s a classic children&#39;s adventure novel in the style of <em>The Phantom Tollbooth</em> or <em>The Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankwiler</em> with an important modern message.</p>

<p>In this live online event, produced for Kepler&#39;s Literary Foundation, we discuss the difference between writing for adults and writing for children, the joy of creating voices and personalities for each of the talking animals, Lev&#39;s favorite kids&#39; books, and the feedback his kids gave him on the book.</p>

<p>--<br>
Lev Grossman is a writer and journalist best known for the <em>New York Times</em>-bestselling <em>Magicians</em> trilogy, a series of urban fantasy novels that were adapted into a television show by the same name. In addition to those novels and <em>The Silver Arrow</em>, he has written two other books, <em>Warp</em> and <em>Codex</em>. His essays and criticism have also been published in <em>Vanity Fair</em>, the <em>Believer</em>, the <em>Village Voice</em>, the <em>Wall Street Journal</em>, the <em>New York Times</em>, <em>Salon</em>, <em>Slate</em>, <em>Wired</em>, <em>Entertainment Weekly</em>, the <em>Week</em>, <em>Buzzfeed</em>, <em>NPR</em>, and <em>Lingua Franca</em>. He served as the lead technology writer and book critic for <em>Time</em> magazine for nearly 15 years, from 2002 to 2016.</p><p>Special Guest: Lev Grossman.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 19: Adam Sass - SURRENDER YOUR SONS</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 18:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Adam Sass about his debut YA novel, SURRENDER YOUR SONS.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>59:08</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In this month's episode, I talk to author Adam Sass about his debut novel, Surrender Your Sons, a queer YA thriller set in a conversion therapy center in Costa Rica. Sass is a gay man himself, and he says he wrote Surrender Your Sons not as a story about queer pain, but as one of queer triumph.
Over the course of this hour, we talk about depictions of coming out and conversion therapy in media, the importance of solidarity, and the difficulty of talking honestly about conversion therapy when so many people believe it to be a thing of the past.
Adam Sass is a self-professed gay geek. Though this is his first novel, his short story “98% Graves” was nominated by Writer’s Digest for Best Science Fiction Story in 2015. In addition to his writing, he is a recurring co-host on the popular Buffy the Vampire Slayer podcast Slayerfest98, alongside such special guests as Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. producer Drew Z. Greenberg and_ RuPaul’s Drag Race_ winner Trixie Mattel. He lives in North Carolina with his husband and their dachshunds. Special Guest: Adam Sass.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this month&#39;s episode, I talk to author Adam Sass about his debut novel, <em>Surrender Your Sons</em>, a queer YA thriller set in a conversion therapy center in Costa Rica. Sass is a gay man himself, and he says he wrote <em>Surrender Your Sons</em> not as a story about queer pain, but as one of queer triumph.</p>

<h2>Over the course of this hour, we talk about depictions of coming out and conversion therapy in media, the importance of solidarity, and the difficulty of talking honestly about conversion therapy when so many people believe it to be a thing of the past.</h2>

<p>Adam Sass is a self-professed gay geek. Though this is his first novel, his short story “98% Graves” was nominated by Writer’s Digest for Best Science Fiction Story in 2015. In addition to his writing, he is a recurring co-host on the popular <em>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</em> podcast <em>Slayerfest98</em>, alongside such special guests as <em>Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.</em> producer Drew Z. Greenberg and_ RuPaul’s Drag Race_ winner Trixie Mattel. He lives in North Carolina with his husband and their dachshunds.</p><p>Special Guest: Adam Sass.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this month&#39;s episode, I talk to author Adam Sass about his debut novel, <em>Surrender Your Sons</em>, a queer YA thriller set in a conversion therapy center in Costa Rica. Sass is a gay man himself, and he says he wrote <em>Surrender Your Sons</em> not as a story about queer pain, but as one of queer triumph.</p>

<h2>Over the course of this hour, we talk about depictions of coming out and conversion therapy in media, the importance of solidarity, and the difficulty of talking honestly about conversion therapy when so many people believe it to be a thing of the past.</h2>

<p>Adam Sass is a self-professed gay geek. Though this is his first novel, his short story “98% Graves” was nominated by Writer’s Digest for Best Science Fiction Story in 2015. In addition to his writing, he is a recurring co-host on the popular <em>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</em> podcast <em>Slayerfest98</em>, alongside such special guests as <em>Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.</em> producer Drew Z. Greenberg and_ RuPaul’s Drag Race_ winner Trixie Mattel. He lives in North Carolina with his husband and their dachshunds.</p><p>Special Guest: Adam Sass.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 18: Zaina Arafat - YOU EXIST TOO MUCH</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2020 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Zaina Arafat about her debut novel, YOU EXIST TOO MUCH.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:09</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Zaina Arafat grew up in two very different worlds with different sets of expectations. It left her with a profound sense of alienation and the feeling of being caught between two identities. As a queer woman who identifies as bisexual, she felt similarly torn.
In her debut novel, You Exist Too Much, Arafat explores that feeling of unbelonging through an unnamed narrator who disappears into romantic relationships and leaves when her partners begin to see her. We talk in this interview about the ways she explored those themes in her novel, her own experiences of growing up in a diaspora, and her narrator's difficult relationship with her mother.
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ZAINA ARAFAT is a Palestinian-American journalist and fiction writer whose work centers the Arab diaspora. Her stories and essays have appeared in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, and many other publications. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Zaina Arafat grew up in two very different worlds with different sets of expectations. It left her with a profound sense of alienation and the feeling of being caught between two identities. As a queer woman who identifies as bisexual, she felt similarly torn.</p>

<p>In her debut novel, <em>You Exist Too Much</em>, Arafat explores that feeling of unbelonging through an unnamed narrator who disappears into romantic relationships and leaves when her partners begin to see her. We talk in this interview about the ways she explored those themes in her novel, her own experiences of growing up in a diaspora, and her narrator&#39;s difficult relationship with her mother.</p>

<p>--<br>
ZAINA ARAFAT is a Palestinian-American journalist and fiction writer whose work centers the Arab diaspora. Her stories and essays have appeared in <em>The Atlantic</em>, <em>The Washington Post</em>, <em>The Christian Science Monitor</em>, <em>NPR</em>, and many other publications. </p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Zaina Arafat grew up in two very different worlds with different sets of expectations. It left her with a profound sense of alienation and the feeling of being caught between two identities. As a queer woman who identifies as bisexual, she felt similarly torn.</p>

<p>In her debut novel, <em>You Exist Too Much</em>, Arafat explores that feeling of unbelonging through an unnamed narrator who disappears into romantic relationships and leaves when her partners begin to see her. We talk in this interview about the ways she explored those themes in her novel, her own experiences of growing up in a diaspora, and her narrator&#39;s difficult relationship with her mother.</p>

<p>--<br>
ZAINA ARAFAT is a Palestinian-American journalist and fiction writer whose work centers the Arab diaspora. Her stories and essays have appeared in <em>The Atlantic</em>, <em>The Washington Post</em>, <em>The Christian Science Monitor</em>, <em>NPR</em>, and many other publications. </p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 17: Kawai Strong Washburn - SHARKS IN THE TIME OF SAVIORS</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 10:30:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:author>Clara Sherley-Appel</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>I talk to Kawai Strong Washburn about his debut novel, SHARKS IN THE TIME OF SAVIORS.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:54</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Kawai Strong Washburn grew up on the Big Island of Hawaiʻi. Life on the Hāmākua coast gave him an appreciation for the natural landscape, as well as the stories and myths he learned in school and from his peers.
In his debut novel, Sharks in the Time of Saviors, Washburn follows the Hawai'ian-Filipino Flores family as they navigate the changing physical and socioeconomic landscape in Hawai'i. The story of the Flores family is set against the backdrop of Hawai'ian myth: when the youngest child is saved from drowning by sharks, his parents come to believe he has been chosen for a special purpose. That belief shapes the way the family functions and the pressues each of the Flores children feel. 
Sharks in the Time of Saviors received rave reviews from the New York Times, the L.A. Review of Books, Vanity Fair, and a slew of other top publications when it was released this past March. In our conversation, we talk about the difference between the Hawai'i that lives in the collective imagination of mainlanders and the Hawai'i of Washburn's youth, the Flores family's dynamic in the context of the traumas they've suffered, and genre.
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KAWAI STRONG WASHBURN was born and raised on the Hāmākua coast of the Big Island of Hawaiʻi, where he read loads of books, lived breathed slept soccer, played saxophone, and did all sorts of dangerous things on concrete and in the water.
He currently lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he is a husband and father (two firecracker daughters), and writes fiction. He occasionally does somewhat dangerous things on rock faces. Special Guest: Kawai Strong Washburn.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Kawai Strong Washburn grew up on the Big Island of Hawaiʻi. Life on the Hāmākua coast gave him an appreciation for the natural landscape, as well as the stories and myths he learned in school and from his peers.</p>

<p>In his debut novel, <em>Sharks in the Time of Saviors</em>, Washburn follows the Hawai&#39;ian-Filipino Flores family as they navigate the changing physical and socioeconomic landscape in Hawai&#39;i. The story of the Flores family is set against the backdrop of Hawai&#39;ian myth: when the youngest child is saved from drowning by sharks, his parents come to believe he has been chosen for a special purpose. That belief shapes the way the family functions and the pressues each of the Flores children feel. </p>

<p><em>Sharks in the Time of Saviors</em> received rave reviews from the <em>New York Times</em>, the <em>L.A. Review of Books</em>, <em>Vanity Fair</em>, and a slew of other top publications when it was released this past March. In our conversation, we talk about the difference between the Hawai&#39;i that lives in the collective imagination of mainlanders and the Hawai&#39;i of Washburn&#39;s youth, the Flores family&#39;s dynamic in the context of the traumas they&#39;ve suffered, and genre.</p>

<p>--<br>
KAWAI STRONG WASHBURN was born and raised on the Hāmākua coast of the Big Island of Hawaiʻi, where he read loads of books, lived breathed slept soccer, played saxophone, and did all sorts of dangerous things on concrete and in the water.</p>

<p>He currently lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he is a husband and father (two firecracker daughters), and writes fiction. He occasionally does somewhat dangerous things on rock faces.</p><p>Special Guest: Kawai Strong Washburn.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Kawai Strong Washburn grew up on the Big Island of Hawaiʻi. Life on the Hāmākua coast gave him an appreciation for the natural landscape, as well as the stories and myths he learned in school and from his peers.</p>

<p>In his debut novel, <em>Sharks in the Time of Saviors</em>, Washburn follows the Hawai&#39;ian-Filipino Flores family as they navigate the changing physical and socioeconomic landscape in Hawai&#39;i. The story of the Flores family is set against the backdrop of Hawai&#39;ian myth: when the youngest child is saved from drowning by sharks, his parents come to believe he has been chosen for a special purpose. That belief shapes the way the family functions and the pressues each of the Flores children feel. </p>

<p><em>Sharks in the Time of Saviors</em> received rave reviews from the <em>New York Times</em>, the <em>L.A. Review of Books</em>, <em>Vanity Fair</em>, and a slew of other top publications when it was released this past March. In our conversation, we talk about the difference between the Hawai&#39;i that lives in the collective imagination of mainlanders and the Hawai&#39;i of Washburn&#39;s youth, the Flores family&#39;s dynamic in the context of the traumas they&#39;ve suffered, and genre.</p>

<p>--<br>
KAWAI STRONG WASHBURN was born and raised on the Hāmākua coast of the Big Island of Hawaiʻi, where he read loads of books, lived breathed slept soccer, played saxophone, and did all sorts of dangerous things on concrete and in the water.</p>

<p>He currently lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he is a husband and father (two firecracker daughters), and writes fiction. He occasionally does somewhat dangerous things on rock faces.</p><p>Special Guest: Kawai Strong Washburn.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 9: Lilah Sturges - LUMBERJANES: THE SHAPE OF FRIENDSHIP</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
  <author>Clara Sherley-Appel</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Comics writer Lilah Sturges joins to talk about her new graphic novel, "The Shape of Friendship," which is part of the Lumberjanes series.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:43</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, I talk to comic writer Lilah Sturges about her work on Lumberjanes: The Shape of Friendship. Lumberjanes is a youth-oriented series that follows the adventures of a group of girls at a summer camp. It's known for its positive outlook and inclusivity, as well as its creative introduction of educational content.
My conversation with Lilah touches on writing for a younger audience, including educational content in ways that feel organic and entertaining, and how stories can help kids develop and solve problems they encounter in their lives. Special Guest: Lilah Sturges.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I talk to comic writer Lilah Sturges about her work on <em>Lumberjanes: The Shape of Friendship</em>. <em>Lumberjanes</em> is a youth-oriented series that follows the adventures of a group of girls at a summer camp. It&#39;s known for its positive outlook and inclusivity, as well as its creative introduction of educational content.</p>

<p>My conversation with Lilah touches on writing for a younger audience, including educational content in ways that feel organic and entertaining, and how stories can help kids develop and solve problems they encounter in their lives.</p><p>Special Guest: Lilah Sturges.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I talk to comic writer Lilah Sturges about her work on <em>Lumberjanes: The Shape of Friendship</em>. <em>Lumberjanes</em> is a youth-oriented series that follows the adventures of a group of girls at a summer camp. It&#39;s known for its positive outlook and inclusivity, as well as its creative introduction of educational content.</p>

<p>My conversation with Lilah touches on writing for a younger audience, including educational content in ways that feel organic and entertaining, and how stories can help kids develop and solve problems they encounter in their lives.</p><p>Special Guest: Lilah Sturges.</p>]]>
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