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Episode 61: Charlie Jane Anders - LESSONS IN MAGIC AND DISASTER

October 6th, 2025

Charlie Jane Anders is an award-winning, best-selling author of speculative fiction based in the Bay Area. She is the winner of the 2017 Nebula, Locus, and Crawford awards; winner of the 2020 Locus Award; a co-creator of the transgender Marvel Comics superhero, Escapade; a founding editor of the science fiction website io9; a co-host, with Annalee Newitz, of the podcast Our Opinions Are Correct; and the current science fiction and fantasy book reviewer for The Washington Post.

In this episode, I talk to Charlie Jane about her latest and most personal novel yet. Written during the pandemic, partly as a way of processing her own father's death and her mother's subsequent isolation, Lessons in Magic and Disaster is about a 20-something graduate student in English Literature who teaches her grieving mother how to do magic...with unexpected consequences. In our conversation, we talk about the hidden history of the 18th century novel, LGBTQ activism in the 70s and 80s, the role of community in writing, and so much more.

To learn more about Charlie Jane, or to order a copy of Lessons in Magic and Disaster, visit charliejaneanders.com.